Hi Anne, I think since you have pride in the label it is different. I just wanted to help those who are afraid to say no to a product, to know that it is not appropriate to face abuse for making a private medical choice. I stopped taking them a long time before COVID, but I never called myself by the label, because I don't like people telling me what to do, and I thought the best way to express that was by not telling other people what to do. I just notice that a lot of people feel like they need to make an excuse, like "I am not an anti vaxxer, but" or "I have had all my vaccines, so it's not like I am an anti-vaxxer" When I hear people use the term in the way it sounds like they feel ashamed.
Thank you, it’s true. What’s a sheeple to do? Drop leaflets. It might catch peoples attention since it’s not done anymore. Hand deliver them to your neighborhood?
In the past I was putting up stickers from white rose and cross hair collection. Once I brought a short on page hand out to the local municipal council. Hand written letters delivered to local government. I don't know. There are lots of things we can do. Especially important is to meet up with people who support you in real life. It really helps me. Even though I am an introvert and I don't want to go, when I am there, it feels a lot better to be with people who are going through the same things.
The problem with choice is you willingly endanger others. Choice is complicated.
My issue is measles, a once eradicated disease is now thriving because of fear of (insert vaccination). I’m all for doing what’s best, but we draw conclusions by highlighting one thing while ignoring so many other factors. We also ignore the percent of the total whole negatively affected by things. Measles kill far less people today than it did but 50 years ago.
Could peanut allergies be due to the fact that certain. Immune systems just react differently? .6% of the us population has a peanut allergy. Somehow vaccinations are the cause? Makes no sense, there would be a greater percent of the population reporting said allergies.
Also, nobody talks about the trash food we consume causing things like autism and long term problems in kids. It’s always vaccinations. The wheat we eat in the US isn’t even real wheat. It’s been modified so many times to cater to demand yet we ignore the inflammatory issues people are experiencing in there gut let alone links to other health issues.
You see I do don’t like others willingly putting my kid in danger because of choice. Therein lies the dilemma.
What gives if I prove through historical data anything, I am not here to convince someone who wants to believe their own narrative. Again, you fear such a small percentage of adverse effects is comical. You then spread fear through information that doesn’t include the whole, just the subset of those impacted. That’s like fearing seatbelts because they kill on average about half of the people involved in fatal accidents. Why wear seatbelts if statistically they don’t matter with the subset of accidents above?
You missed the point of choice. You are willingly putting my kid at risk. I don’t get a choice in the matter, you just do. Why do I have to limit my own civil liberties for the sake of yours?
Again, choice is a tough subject to navigate when it comes to anything . But I look at macro data and question things like why the average lifespan of humans as a whole has increased by 20 years in the last 100 years?
How is your kid at risk? Others would say that their children are at risk around your kid that is shedding this crap all over the place. But they put up with it. Authoritarianism works both ways. By the way, people warned about this at the beginning of COVID, that people would turn away from all vaccines, and nobody listened. I was one of those people. Can't you see the middle road is everyone making their own choices?
Many reasons why lifespan increased. It is not vaccines, in my opinion. This is imaginary too. I choose the imaginary man, you can choose the imaginary juice in a needle.
You have a choice to take a product or not. And others do too. If that's not enough for you, you could organize and create your own vaccine only place to live. Seriously get over yourself. It is my body my choice.
People also believe there is an imaginary man in the sky who actually does tangible things on our planet. They then tell others this imaginary person should be worshipped to prevent disease. Is this not the same thing? Who is right?
Again, choice is the issue. I don’t want to be impacted by your choice, you don’t want to be impacted by mine.
Also no vaccination has ever been forced onto the public. Everyone had the choice to say no.
At one point I was not going to be allowed in the grocery store. That was when the freedom convoy went to Ottawa. People don't want your kid shedding on them. But you don't care.
That was a policy choice made by a business. If you’d didn’t like it, you could choose to take your business elsewhere. This goes back to my logic comment. “I’m not telling you what to do, but heaven forbid you inconvenience me so I can’t get goods that you transport into my city for me to consume. I deserve food therefore I should have access to the goods you provide me”
We experience all kinds of pollution daily. There is much information that vaccines do cause autism, peanut and food allergies, and chronic diseases. The number of vaccines given to American children is criminal.
By now even the medical field is speaking up about it.
Please do your research before taking a stand.
The other day a women wrote:
All these diseases popped up when the anti vaxxers came around…
When I told her that that, in fact was brought to us by 3rd world countries, she became ugly, made it a political and then a personal issue….
We have to remember that this is not personal, it is not political, if we get lost in ego battles instead of sharing the facts and staying objective we will lose this struggle.
I find your comment confusing. I wish you could be more clear. Are you objecting to what I have written? If so, please be more clear about what your objection is. I am just saying that it should always be a choice. People can make the wrong choice. That's life. I feel that I made the right choice. I said no.
The Medical field is full of people who choose certain datasets over others and then formulate strategy to combat whatever disease or problem. Hence the debate we are having as we speak. Everyone’s right, until they are not. That’s why most of medicine is called practice and uses theory not law to make decisions.
By datasets do you mean study and research results?
I agree! It is practicing medicine, one product may not work, so we try something else and that is fine. That is not the problem here.
The problem is that we deal with falsefied research, "they" were not honest about chemo or opiods either, were they?!!
Doctors were not made aware of the danger.
Prescriptions have become a way of making money, that is a conflict of intrest and should be illegal .. by the time doctors get to practice, they have a mountain of debt... that is why we see all these unecessary treatments... income.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with a broken vertabrae, she was forced to go through two
different treatments before surgery... really??? Its a broken bone, cortisone shots wont help...
private investors buy a patent and then charge 500 times the cost...
I spoke to a doctor in Atlanta about the dangers of addiction, it is not just oxicodone, i was informed that there are ( at that time, 10 years ago ) only 4 Addictionologists in this country.. 4!
The rest have no clue, Methadone turned out to be worse than heroine.
There is a Red list of all dangerously addictive meds... why is it not circulated?
Scientists report that the cure for The Flu is 20 years away, the strands keep mutating, wich means, that the shot I'm getting today is useless a few days later... or less ...yet we get vaccine after vaccine.
And the side effects turned out to be horrendous, not just for a few...
That has nothing to do with practicing medicine, that is greed and corruption across the whole field.
Yes, data from research results. Trust me, I snapped my collar bone and was mistakenly told not to get surgery. Same injury resulted in a broken back that went undiagnosed for 15 years. My wife snapped her collar bone )we are snowboarders) and was given a script for 180 oxycontin. We kept it as a reminder that our healthcare systems does anything but care for health.
And you are right, capitalism is great up until the point it’s not. But suffering is also not ok. Some say that’s life, I say not exactly. But at what point does fear eliminate one’s ability to seek out doctors who do care and are trying their best to cure ailments? We have certainly found some but it’s not easy.
Lastly, the idea of universal cures with respect to disease that’s constantly mutating is interesting. There is a great documentary on a universal flu vaccination made by a company called centivax(believe the Netflix doc is called pandemic). The idea behind a universal cure is not so simple. Also these guys want to district globally at little to no costs without government intervention.
I skimmed through. Pierre poilievere is not someone I’d put any faith into. Also, why send me your data when you don’t even bother to look into mine? Back to choice.
You skimmed through? Why did I post a story I wrote in the comments section of my own substack article? It has nothing to do with Pierre. That was the opening.Don't read it. You are commenting on my substack. Go ahead and write about your data on your own blog. Be the change.
I actually am an anti vaxxer and didn't vaccinate any of my 3 children. I don't care what they call me, sticks and stones etc.
Hi Anne, I think since you have pride in the label it is different. I just wanted to help those who are afraid to say no to a product, to know that it is not appropriate to face abuse for making a private medical choice. I stopped taking them a long time before COVID, but I never called myself by the label, because I don't like people telling me what to do, and I thought the best way to express that was by not telling other people what to do. I just notice that a lot of people feel like they need to make an excuse, like "I am not an anti vaxxer, but" or "I have had all my vaccines, so it's not like I am an anti-vaxxer" When I hear people use the term in the way it sounds like they feel ashamed.
Same, I'm also anti - every *insert poison*
I'm pro *stuff that actually helps*, which is largely found outside the medical system.
Not one of these vaccines is safe.
Not for humans or animals.
He got that right .
Yes, he sure did! Thanks for your comment!
Agreed!
We are not allergic to gluten, we are allergic to genetically modefied.
Thank you!!!
You're welcome. There was nothing in the article on that topic.
No, just another one of those insane things and I should have explained better...
I like to tell vaxtards My body my choice and watch the aneurysm develop.
I like that one too. I need be using it more often!
Edward Bernays was hugely successful selling Tobacco Death to Young Women.
He was also employed by the Fluoride Industrial Waste Disposal via Public Drinking Water "industry".
he really knew what was going on!
Fuck every childhood vaccine
Not at all!! I totally agree!
Sometimes I'm too fast for my own good! LOL
Some of my comment was not direcred at you... just in general.
Hi Renee, I understand your point. I just refuse to be cowed by name calling.
Absolutely. If your trust is in these few mind wizards, you've lost your soul and lost your life. Unbelievable.
Yes 100% true. Stay free!
Thank you, it’s true. What’s a sheeple to do? Drop leaflets. It might catch peoples attention since it’s not done anymore. Hand deliver them to your neighborhood?
In the past I was putting up stickers from white rose and cross hair collection. Once I brought a short on page hand out to the local municipal council. Hand written letters delivered to local government. I don't know. There are lots of things we can do. Especially important is to meet up with people who support you in real life. It really helps me. Even though I am an introvert and I don't want to go, when I am there, it feels a lot better to be with people who are going through the same things.
The problem with choice is you willingly endanger others. Choice is complicated.
My issue is measles, a once eradicated disease is now thriving because of fear of (insert vaccination). I’m all for doing what’s best, but we draw conclusions by highlighting one thing while ignoring so many other factors. We also ignore the percent of the total whole negatively affected by things. Measles kill far less people today than it did but 50 years ago.
Could peanut allergies be due to the fact that certain. Immune systems just react differently? .6% of the us population has a peanut allergy. Somehow vaccinations are the cause? Makes no sense, there would be a greater percent of the population reporting said allergies.
Also, nobody talks about the trash food we consume causing things like autism and long term problems in kids. It’s always vaccinations. The wheat we eat in the US isn’t even real wheat. It’s been modified so many times to cater to demand yet we ignore the inflammatory issues people are experiencing in there gut let alone links to other health issues.
I don't buy the measles story
You see I do don’t like others willingly putting my kid in danger because of choice. Therein lies the dilemma.
What gives if I prove through historical data anything, I am not here to convince someone who wants to believe their own narrative. Again, you fear such a small percentage of adverse effects is comical. You then spread fear through information that doesn’t include the whole, just the subset of those impacted. That’s like fearing seatbelts because they kill on average about half of the people involved in fatal accidents. Why wear seatbelts if statistically they don’t matter with the subset of accidents above?
I didn't tell anyone what to do
If you have used a product to protect your child then if it doesn't work it was the product, not others putting your child at risk.
You missed the point of choice. You are willingly putting my kid at risk. I don’t get a choice in the matter, you just do. Why do I have to limit my own civil liberties for the sake of yours?
Again, choice is a tough subject to navigate when it comes to anything . But I look at macro data and question things like why the average lifespan of humans as a whole has increased by 20 years in the last 100 years?
How is your kid at risk? Others would say that their children are at risk around your kid that is shedding this crap all over the place. But they put up with it. Authoritarianism works both ways. By the way, people warned about this at the beginning of COVID, that people would turn away from all vaccines, and nobody listened. I was one of those people. Can't you see the middle road is everyone making their own choices?
Many reasons why lifespan increased. It is not vaccines, in my opinion. This is imaginary too. I choose the imaginary man, you can choose the imaginary juice in a needle.
Is this imaginary man the creator of alll things including, but not limited to, vaccinations?
You have a choice to take a product or not. And others do too. If that's not enough for you, you could organize and create your own vaccine only place to live. Seriously get over yourself. It is my body my choice.
People have lied with statistics for a long time
People also believe there is an imaginary man in the sky who actually does tangible things on our planet. They then tell others this imaginary person should be worshipped to prevent disease. Is this not the same thing? Who is right?
Again, choice is the issue. I don’t want to be impacted by your choice, you don’t want to be impacted by mine.
Also no vaccination has ever been forced onto the public. Everyone had the choice to say no.
At one point I was not going to be allowed in the grocery store. That was when the freedom convoy went to Ottawa. People don't want your kid shedding on them. But you don't care.
That was a policy choice made by a business. If you’d didn’t like it, you could choose to take your business elsewhere. This goes back to my logic comment. “I’m not telling you what to do, but heaven forbid you inconvenience me so I can’t get goods that you transport into my city for me to consume. I deserve food therefore I should have access to the goods you provide me”
At least be consistent with your logic
Consideration logic? What did I say that was not consistent?
We experience all kinds of pollution daily. There is much information that vaccines do cause autism, peanut and food allergies, and chronic diseases. The number of vaccines given to American children is criminal.
If product works don't blame others for not taking it.
Bullshit on measles
Yes! I talked about that here earlier!!
We are not allergic to gluten, we are allergic to gentically modified. Humans have been eating grains for thousands of years..
now we are paying extra for "organic" vegetables... compared to what? ... right!
the insanity.
The industries have ruined this country and politicians sold us out.
Measels... a 3rd world problem ... they should get the vaccines upon entering, mandatory.
... I hear the the phrase population control more and more... I never would have thought it possible ...now however ...
By now even the medical field is speaking up about it.
Please do your research before taking a stand.
The other day a women wrote:
All these diseases popped up when the anti vaxxers came around…
When I told her that that, in fact was brought to us by 3rd world countries, she became ugly, made it a political and then a personal issue….
We have to remember that this is not personal, it is not political, if we get lost in ego battles instead of sharing the facts and staying objective we will lose this struggle.
We the People are not the enemy!
We have been mislead and betrayed.
Please do your research!!!!
I find your comment confusing. I wish you could be more clear. Are you objecting to what I have written? If so, please be more clear about what your objection is. I am just saying that it should always be a choice. People can make the wrong choice. That's life. I feel that I made the right choice. I said no.
The Medical field is full of people who choose certain datasets over others and then formulate strategy to combat whatever disease or problem. Hence the debate we are having as we speak. Everyone’s right, until they are not. That’s why most of medicine is called practice and uses theory not law to make decisions.
By datasets do you mean study and research results?
I agree! It is practicing medicine, one product may not work, so we try something else and that is fine. That is not the problem here.
The problem is that we deal with falsefied research, "they" were not honest about chemo or opiods either, were they?!!
Doctors were not made aware of the danger.
Prescriptions have become a way of making money, that is a conflict of intrest and should be illegal .. by the time doctors get to practice, they have a mountain of debt... that is why we see all these unecessary treatments... income.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with a broken vertabrae, she was forced to go through two
different treatments before surgery... really??? Its a broken bone, cortisone shots wont help...
private investors buy a patent and then charge 500 times the cost...
I spoke to a doctor in Atlanta about the dangers of addiction, it is not just oxicodone, i was informed that there are ( at that time, 10 years ago ) only 4 Addictionologists in this country.. 4!
The rest have no clue, Methadone turned out to be worse than heroine.
There is a Red list of all dangerously addictive meds... why is it not circulated?
Scientists report that the cure for The Flu is 20 years away, the strands keep mutating, wich means, that the shot I'm getting today is useless a few days later... or less ...yet we get vaccine after vaccine.
And the side effects turned out to be horrendous, not just for a few...
That has nothing to do with practicing medicine, that is greed and corruption across the whole field.
Yes, data from research results. Trust me, I snapped my collar bone and was mistakenly told not to get surgery. Same injury resulted in a broken back that went undiagnosed for 15 years. My wife snapped her collar bone )we are snowboarders) and was given a script for 180 oxycontin. We kept it as a reminder that our healthcare systems does anything but care for health.
And you are right, capitalism is great up until the point it’s not. But suffering is also not ok. Some say that’s life, I say not exactly. But at what point does fear eliminate one’s ability to seek out doctors who do care and are trying their best to cure ailments? We have certainly found some but it’s not easy.
Lastly, the idea of universal cures with respect to disease that’s constantly mutating is interesting. There is a great documentary on a universal flu vaccination made by a company called centivax(believe the Netflix doc is called pandemic). The idea behind a universal cure is not so simple. Also these guys want to district globally at little to no costs without government intervention.
The more you comment, the more my algorithm improves . thanks . Of course Netflix, totally reliable!
https://open.substack.com/pub/xnumber11x/p/solving-the-mystery-of-2020?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=paf6o
I skimmed through. Pierre poilievere is not someone I’d put any faith into. Also, why send me your data when you don’t even bother to look into mine? Back to choice.
You skimmed through? Why did I post a story I wrote in the comments section of my own substack article? It has nothing to do with Pierre. That was the opening.Don't read it. You are commenting on my substack. Go ahead and write about your data on your own blog. Be the change.
So your god created biolabs as well? Amazing tests!!!
You obviously didn't read it.
In this case the law was murder
Murder is not a law, vaccines are not cures.
The laws they passed incentivized murder to sell a vaccine
By data sets.. you mean research results for both meds and things like covid..?